Level 3 Bricklayer Coming Out Of College In A Couple Of Weekes Need Help!?
Posted 08 May 2014 - 02:45 PM
Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:49 PM
Congratulations on finishing your training.
I can't answer your question, other than to say ask your tutors before you finish. I would have thought teaching you a bit about how the building industry actually works would be part of the course?
Anyone can set up self employed. Just remember to tell the tax man. But I would suggest to start with you get a job with a building firm until you are established and more "proven"
Once "in" the building trade you meet other tradesmen and form contacts. I think they call it "networking" these days.
Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:02 PM
Don't think for one minute that'll be a long process, 2 years will fly by trust me. :-)
Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:08 PM
Edited by joiner, 10 May 2014 - 02:59 PM.
Tut, tut. Typo.
Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:10 AM
A)inform HMRC that you intend to work on a self employed basis & ask them to issue you with a UTR (unique tax reference.)
B ) ensure you have a CSCS card (I assume college sorted that,if not buy the answer book off eBay & book yourself a test pronto)
C) ask around about any big developments going on in your area & tap up any brickies for phone numbers of who they're working for. Trust me,you can never have too many numbers in your phone. If you know any big sites,turn up with your tools & PPE at 7ish in the morning & ask for the brickwork foreman. Tell him you're just out of college & looking for a start as an improver. Being there nice & early & showing a bit of initiative might get you through the door,or onto a different site with the same firm.
House building is where you will earn your stripes speed wise but be aware that there are some rough blokes out there & they won't take kindly to having their shortcomings pointed out to them. Keep your standards high & get your speed up gradually. It's all about repetition & trying to eliminate unnecessary movements in your technique. If you're aiming eventually to put down 500+ bricks a day & you're making one extra motion in each brick you lay,then you're having to work harder than you should,or,put another way,you could be laying even more by cutting out wasted movement. (Tapping bricks down is my pet hate-if I wanted to work with woodpeckers Id be an ornithologist.)
Getting the bed right is the key,all else gets easier after. You want no gaps on the face of the wall or you'll be forever filling in come jointing up time,with just enough so that one push down to the line gives you enough surplus for the cut off to butter your next perp without returning to your spot board. Any muck which goes on the wall should stay there-if you have any excess then dump it in the frog for the next course.
If anything else comes to mind I'll put it up.
Where in the country are you?
Edited by brickie, 09 May 2014 - 12:11 AM.
Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:28 PM
Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:47 PM
It's what just about all of us did. Moped age 16, perhaps larger bike aged 17, pass car test as soon as possible, buy an old banger and go from there.
Edited by ProDave, 09 May 2014 - 03:48 PM.
Posted 09 May 2014 - 06:12 PM
I was in my early 20's when I went back to do my Advanced Craft so was already mobile but still needed to pay my way so had an evening job delivering pizzas. Be a doddle now with satnav!
If you try it,take my advice & work as far from home as you reasonably can. Nothing quite so humiliating as having to walk in a pub full of your mates (& females you've had your eye on) in a pizza uniform.
Re getting a start-this is where you need to be proactive & network with any brickies you hear of. Any lads from your course working for a big firm who might squeeze you in? Got any relations near London? Tons of work down here at the moment.
Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:51 PM
In the main, I think if you treat people well then you'll find some will respect that and treat you well. It's very much about personal relationships, get in with a good crew and gain a good reputation and you will, in turn, get work by recommendation. You'll probably find yourself labouring and doing unskilled work for a lower rate for a while, but hang on in there and, if you're good and work hard the work will come and your rates will increase. I have a great, fairly young, (very early thirties), brickie I can call on. He charges me £160 a day, plus whatever I have to pay for a labourer, and is one of the best guys I've had on site.
Posted 10 May 2014 - 02:51 AM
Have you worked with profiles yet?
Posted 10 May 2014 - 03:38 AM
Posted 10 May 2014 - 06:48 AM
I really need to get out more.
Posted 10 May 2014 - 12:01 PM
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Posted 10 May 2014 - 01:11 PM
The other thing to remember with profiles is you still need to check your work for plumb as you come up. Hoddies have a tendency to catch them on the way past & knock them slightly.
Edited by joiner, 11 May 2014 - 03:33 PM.
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